Is the album now dead ?

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If only for a moment.....
Well, is it ?

Taylor Swift, Billie Eilish and the album comeback​



Taylor Swift performing in Singapore as part of her Eras tour. Taylor is a 34-year-old white woman with long wavy blonde hair and a fringe just above her eyebrows. She has blue eyes and looks to the left of the image. She wears her signature red lipstick and a black mesh one-sleeved jumpsuit which is embellished with red and black sequins and gems. She holds her right arm out, bent up at the elbow.

By Riyah Collins
BBC Newsbeat

Beyoncé released two in one go, Dua Lipa let her fans have three. Taylor Swift? She kept everything under wraps.
The Tortured Poets Department dropped last week with no singles released in advance and, next month, Billie Eilish says she'll be doing the same.
For years, commentators have been warning that the album is dead and the single reigns supreme.
That's partly down to streaming apps like Spotify and Apple Music which let fans pick and choose their favourite tracks from artists and curate personalised playlists.
But could two of the world's biggest stars opting to ditch singles breathe life back into albums?
Announcing Hit Me Hard and Soft, Billie said she wanted her fans to hear the album in one go.
And in an interview with Rolling Stone, she explained why.
"Every single time an artist I love puts out a single without the context of the album, I'm just already prone to hating on it," she said.
"I really don't like when things are out of context. This album is like a family: I don't want one little kid to be in the middle of the room alone."
Billie Eilish performing at Coachella Festival. Billie is a 22-year-old white woman with shoulder-length dark hair. She is pictured on stage, bending towards the crowd. She wears blue and yellow sports shorts, matched with a blue sports jersey, white sports socks and white sneakers with red trim. She wears a green and white cap over a blue bandana and holds the microphone in her right hand while her left is behind her back. A line of security officers separates her from the crowd, which is otherwise very close. People in the crowd hold phones and cameras up to capture her performance.

Billie Eilish says she wants to give fans her upcoming album "all at once"
Even though he's responsible for the weekly Official Singles Chart, Martin Talbot, the chief executive of the Official Charts Company, admits he's more of an album fan himself.
"It's fantastic that Billie Eilish and Taylor Swift are doing what appears to be something designed to push music fans back to the concept of an album," he tells BBC Newsbeat.
"There is a danger that music fans lose sight of what an album is and what an album represents.
"The album represents the kind of apex of the creative vision of a particular artist.
"And it's really important for the creative health of music and the cultural environment we preserve that."

Fans take control​

In the 70-year history of the charts, Martin says collating the top 40 singles has changed dramatically.
It started with calling around a few record stores each week to ask which singles - specially selected and released by musicians - were their bestsellers.
Now, thanks to streaming platforms, anything can be a single - and anything can enter the chart.
"The great thing about the digital environment is that it puts the control in the hands of the consumer, in the hands of music fans," Martin tells Newsbeat.
"Billie Eilish and Taylor Swift, they may just be releasing albums, but each of those tracks that make up those albums is available to stream in isolation," he says.
"And if those tracks get enough streams, they will go into the singles chart, regardless of whether the artist deems them to be singles or not."
That decision could be a thing of the past for artists as big as Taylor and Billie, although Taylor did release a music video for one song - Fortnight - on the day her album dropped.
That went straight to number one, but other tracks that weren't officially promoted, including Down Bad and the eponymous The Tortured Poets Department, also debuted in the top five.
But for up and coming talents like Beth McCarthy singles are as important as ever.
Beth McCarthy performing on stage. Beth is a 26-year-old white woman with blonde hair dyed pink. She wears a grey denim crop top with a pink tartan tie around her neck. She holds a microphone to her face with her right hand, revealing a black line tattoo on her inner upper arm. Beth's eyes are closed as she sings, holding the microphone stand with her left hand. The staging behind her is lit purple

Singer Beth McCarthy says singles are still important for artists establishing their sound
"Singles are a massive part of what starts your career," the singer tells Newsbeat.
"It creates a way to release music without the pressure of making a whole body of work and figuring out an entire sound.
"It lets people get to know you but in short, little bits rather than having to do the whole big thing."
Beth, from London, will be performing at Radio 1's Big Weekend in May on the Introducing stage, and hopes to release her first album soon.
"I've been doing singles and EPs because they're a shorter way to create something that isn't going full pelt into an album," she says.
"And for me, making an album, I want it to be done properly and done in a way that really works together and feels like art."
Album art for Beyoncé's album, Cowboy Carter. Beyoncé is a 42-year-old black woman. She's styled in a red, white and blue patent cowboy-themed outfit including a cowboy hat, chaps and a buttoned up shirt. She's pictured sitting side-saddle on a white horse, her long silver hair flowing behind her. In her right hand, she holds the horse's reigns and in her left she holds aloft the American flag.

Beyoncé dropped two singles from Cowboy Carter in one go
Aside from refining an artist's sound, another good thing about releasing singles is how they can get fans excited for a new album.
"The single is still one of the most powerful promotional tools for an album," says Martin.
He gives Texas Hold 'Em as an example, one of two singles Beyoncé released from Cowboy Carter which he says "fed directly into the success of her album" - which debuted at number one.
But Martin says for most artists, singles have an important role to play in keeping album sales high.
"Part of the job of releasing singles is to keep the album in the public eye and to continue to ensure that people are reminded it exists," he says.
"It's very easy to fall off the radar."
Vanishing from the limelight might not be a worry for Taylor, who within five days of releasing The Tortured Poets Department broke Spotify records with more than a billion streams.
She also broke UK chart records, with the album reaching number one and outselling the rest of the top 10 combined.

Could it be the start of a comeback for the album?
Billie's brother and collaborator Finneas suggested a return to listening to albums in full was due a comeback.
"We're not even at 'song' anymore," he told the magazine, saying music was increasingly being consumed in trending soundbites on TikTok.
But "everything's a counter-movement to the movement," he added.
"I think that's going to lead back to immersing yourself in an album. I really do."
Taylor and Billie aren't the first artists to shun singles, but Martin says it's an interesting coincidence to see two megastars take this approach at similar times.
"It won't be the last time they do it," he says.
"And it doesn't also mean the old model will die by the wayside and people are no longer going to start releasing singles."



So folks, what say you ?
 
Don't know a single song from any of them..Half of them I never heard of..Nobody I know listens to them..

The album s probably dead. Or it is in a serious decline.

Digital music is kinda all sounding the same..Country music you'd think are drunks, all they sing about is beverages. Most cannot identify who sings, cause they are so processed to sound the same.

"ive been thrown down whiskey"
"trying to get my money back"
workin hard to fade your memory "
but the only thing faded is me"

or

I need something you proof
pourin 90 to 100
thats the hard truth..
 
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Elle King is probably the best talent of recent time. Best rock voice. Can play the instruments. Can belt it out.

Born to fame . Actor/Comedian/SNL, Rob Schneider's daughter.

ELLE KING LIVES!
FUCK, THAT KING!
"L" KING!!!!!

Janis joplin like?
 
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I can only speak from my own experience. I have released two EP's in recent years and in both cases the first song gets the most plays, the second song gets the second most and so on. So why would I release 8 or 10 songs knowing that people are losing interest as they listen? I know you're thinking that maybe it's because my music sucks but I think it has more to do with short attention spans.
 
I still make the idea of an album, but my stuff doesn't get many listens. I don't think is the album idea is at fault, but ...
 
I want 1978 back.
I am not sure, I did it once and it wasn't all good.

Had to make an edit. If you remember, unemployment was 11+%, interest rates 13-15% on a mortgage. USSR and US having Nuclear Bombs point at each other. I remember in Europe where we were playing wars games all over the country. Having tanks parked next to peoples house, we were running on the roads with our jeeps and trucks, I was a helicopter mechanic and I was making landing places in somebody's field.

I am not thrilled with 1978-1990 to be honest. When EAST/West Germany reunited, then things changed a lot.
 
I don't think anything is dead, I just think that the expectation of a 10 song album has gone away.

There used to be rules for how and what you were expected to do as an artist that were 'enforced' by the record companies. Somewhere in the 80's that turned into a one size fits all package.

Now people can put out what it makes sense for them to put out, taking into account their core audience.

Some artists write singles, so it may not make sense for them to try to create a coherent album.

It may also not make sense for an artist creating a concept album to try to put out singles from that album.
 
There were no albums in the 40's, 50's and first part of the 60's and even in the 70's to a degree.
All new music was "singles" on 78 and then 45 RPM. I remember buying only 45's for the songs I liked back in the 70's.
What's old is new again.
 
In the 60s, people put out albums, but the record companies were always looking for that hit single. There were very few albums like Thriller that had 7 singles released. Some people would only buy the single they heard on the radio, others would get the whole vinyl album and might play one side more than the other. However, with an album you were only really committed to listening to 15-20 minutes, as you had to get up and then flip the record over. It wasn't until the CD came that you were expected to listen to up to 80 minutes in a sitting.

Now, you just throw songs into your playlist, so it's like the folks that bought 45s in the olden days. The people that want all of Taylor's songs, or all of Billie's songs together can buy the CD. I have heard that there are artists who are beginning to look at making albums that are meant to be played in order.

Maybe what's old is new again, eh?
 
There were no albums in the 40's, 50's and first part of the 60's and even in the 70's to a degree.
All new music was "singles" on 78 and then 45 RPM. I remember buying only 45's for the songs I liked back in the 70's.
What's old is new again.
The term "album" was used in the 30s and referred to collections of 78rpm discs in a book, similar to a photo album. The term was carried into the 50s with the advent of the LP, which enabled albums on a single disc.
 
The term "album" was used in the 30s and referred to collections of 78rpm discs in a book, similar to a photo album. The term was carried into the 50s with the advent of the LP, which enabled albums on a single disc.
Interesting, I didn't know that.
 
Recall all those "we needed one more song to complete the album" stories. A lot of good songs and at times big hits came out of that. The spontaneity, the on the spot, perhaps the defining of the true identity and artistry, the who they were. A drag to lose that, innit.
 
Recall all those "we needed one more song to complete the album" stories. A lot of good songs and at times big hits came out of that. The spontaneity, the on the spot, perhaps the defining of the true identity and artistry, the who they were. A drag to lose that, innit.
You mean like "Hey I worked this up from a fingerpicking exercise"..... Dust in the WInd.

Or "We needed one more tune, and had worked on a song before we had to move to the hotel" ..... Smoke on the Water.
 
The term "album" was used in the 30s and referred to collections of 78rpm discs in a book, similar to a photo album. The term was carried into the 50s with the advent of the LP, which enabled albums on a single disc.
I was referring to a single LP vinyl record. When I was a kid in the 60's and 70's, 45's were still a huge thing.
 
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